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So Apple can entry my non-public iCloud backups in spite of everything?!

It would seem Apple s declare of privateness safety do not add up if they will merely entry your backups. i.e. your backups aren t non-public to simply you (implement “end-to-end encryption”)I do know you possibly can encrypt your backups and retailer them regionally by way of Itunes. But as all know that is such an extremely cumbersome and inconvenient course of that NO ONE shall be performing ROUTINE non-public backups that means.https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22106536It s unhappy to suppose that Google seems to do that appropriately https://www.androidcentral.com/apple-may-have-ditched-encrypted-backups-google-hasnt
But clearly, Google has an invested curiosity to leak your searching searches and such.Tbh I m extra involved about my full backup and pictures being uncovered than my searching search historical past. Argh. What an terrible state of affairs.https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 is loopy deceptive. End to finish (non-public to simply you) for every thing is what you need and want.

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  1. I was an iPhone user who has recently switched to Android . I believe with Android devices , I might have a better shot at privacy ( not security perhaps) than iOS devices . I have rooted my android device , and flashed it with custom rom , and stayed far away from G-apps as much as possible . Regarding backups , I have a self-hosted server running nextcloud where I keep my backups . It's a lot of hassle and isn't exactly very secure , but that's a price to pay for some privacy and peace of mind .

  2. Words are not a good enough reason to trust a company with your private data in my opinion. Apple's software is closed source making it a walled garden by design so their claims of privacy cannot be taken seriously. When you buy an iOS device, you are forced into that ecosystem and you cannot even dream of installing non-proprietary privacy-respecting software.

    I would like to claim Android still holds the first place in protecting your privacy as you are able to unlock the bootloader, install open source ROMs without having any Google services even installed.
    No other platform so far has the opportunity to privacy on a smartphone on this level despite many attempts.

    Apple is simply using their claims of privacy as a way to market their products to consumers who don't know better. I would recommend a YouTube video from the channel 'The Hated One' with the title 'Apple doesn't actually care about your privacy
    ' for more information.

  3. I don't get the point of a Back wich should be End To End. Only Messages makes Sends to make this End To End because you have 2 parties who wanna read the message. My Backup is my and I just need to PGP it or whatever.

    But Yeah, Backuping an android is a mess. I have found myself a nice way. The easiest at the moment is something like buying the phone twice and root both and have one as a backup.

  4. You trusted Apple in the first place? Pro tip: Everything cloud is just a server where someone else can access your data in some way.

  5. For backup, you can have your own infrastructure. By using LineageOS, you use some older hardware, but it is twice as fast as the newer ones, due to all background Google surveillance tasks being not there at all. You can easily buy two of those older phones and keep one for emergency. For the backup, it's easy on LingeageOS: Just rsync over, as you do with all other computers. Or make a dd(1) backup while you sleep. Adb(1) is your friend here.

    Life would be easy, if you wouldn't be such a consumer.

    Hopefully we will soon see full Linux phones, without any dependency on this half-baked Google crap. They are still using python2 for the build system, with hacked together scripts. 20 years ago we would have called the Google developers script kiddies.

  6. โ€œLegal killed it, for reasons you can imagine,โ€ another former Apple employee said. So your backup is encrypted on the server side only, but you can always make your local backup.
    Apple use end-to-end encryption for your messages, keychain and WiFi passwords.

    Personally I wouldn't keep my data in any cloud.

  7. Google canโ€™t be end to end. Otherwise if the device dies you would loose the private keys. I believe Google backups get stored in gdrive which is encrypted server side. There maybe a secondary password encryption on the device backup, I canโ€™t recall. I know google chrome sync has password based encryption.

  8. They're playing with words. Your backup is encrypted, you have a key and they have a key. For iCloud backups, โ€œour users have a key and we have one,โ€ said CEO Tim Cook in 2019.

    It's the same for Microsoft Onedrive. Some users put sensitives NFSW files on it and they got their account suspended for it. It they couldnt not get access this would not happen.

    Having the rep saying they can't access it is just a strategy so make it looks secure. They even use 3rd party vendor to save your data. Why would you trust any of this?

    Well Samsung phones can resist water way better than iPhones and YES they have samsung shops were you can get replacements.. when i upgrade my phone, I keep the previous one as a backup emergency phone! ๐Ÿ™‚

    I also like the fact that you have private sandbox with the Samsung knox, which doesn't really exist anywhere else.

  9. If google really can't access your backups, thats because they mined all your data beforehand. I'd never trust google over apple when it comes to privacy.

  10. Well of course Apple can read your iCloud backup data. How do you think they can provide the data to the FBI. This has been known for a while.

  11. I swear photos are backed up to iCloud immediately once you have taken a photo as it uses iCloud photo library instead of iCloud backups

  12. Cloud = somebody else's server. Your data on somebody else's server = somebody else's data. Cloud is BS. The only place you can trust is your own. Self host all the way.

  13. Hello Kai, I have two android phones, one always at home, with almost the same apps and configuration so in this way I can change my phone in a few hours. Maybe you can try it.

  14. Good morning! ๐Ÿ˜„

    From Wikipedia:
    "The third-party doctrine is a United States legal doctrine that holds that people who voluntarily give information to third partiesโ€”such as banks, phone companies, internet service providers (ISPs), and e-mail serversโ€”have "no reasonable expectation of privacy."

    If you share (backup) something with someone (wife, friend, Apple, government, ๐Ÿ‘ฝ , etc) you have no legal rights to force them to protect your data's privacy. The "common science says" – "If you want something to stay private you shouldn't share it in the first place.";

    And then the encryption comes – it's like the sausages (and what is inside) – you have to choices, belief in the business who sells them or get things done on your own, but there are no legal bindings in beliving/trusting the business.

    Have a good day sir, I love you videos!

  15. Get a second iPhone (less expensive one) as a backup.
    Android is too fragmented and too intrusive anyway, I say that while I do use a Google Pixel 2 daily but as you said: who is going to provide you a replacement on day 1 if it breaks? In my case, no one as I bought it abroad due to Google not selling everywhere.

    The only difference is that I still can do my banking on my computer I don't necessary need to hurry. ๐Ÿ™‚

    in any case, as a freelancer, you need two smartphone, period.

  16. Only using my own cloud sitting in my living room. iPhone does support caldav, carddav, nextcloud apps can be set up in a way that it uploads all.your photos automatically. I think you can have the same functionality with a little more effort without using Apples iCloud infrastructure, which in turn is run in large parts on Microsoft Azure and in small parts in Google Cloud, and in the most minimal part in Apples own data centres.

    I just don't trust other people's computers as much as I like to trust mine.

  17. This is not news dude. You see it on the news all the time. Apple gives up iCloud backups to law enforcement 'if' applicable.

    Dude please tell me you encrypted senstive data on iCloud. You probably did not.

  18. Anything I put on a cloud backup worth it is encrypted. Even if I had Spider Oak. I would still encrypt the files.

    This dude is blissdully ignorant.

  19. I think the most ridiculous thing is you can't simply take the storage card (*) out from the broken phone, put it in the replacement phone, and boot it from that filesystem.
    (*) I say "card" but I bet that damn chip is soldered for no other reason than to trap the customers.

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